the f(n) of MCS
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the f(n) of MCS
Let f(n) = 1/(2^n)
where n >= 1.
as n approaches infinity f(1) + f(2) + ... + f(n) approaches 1.
f(n) is the percentage number of students in n year level in the department of MCS.
Can you prove that a certain student in a year level will have a 50% chance to proceed to the next year level?
Isn't math fun?
someone prove this... saun ra kaau... math15 + math16 + math35...
edit: f(n) was wrong lol... fixed it... but its so easy now... x.x it looked harder when it was wrong lol u dont need induction anymore... *sadface*
where n >= 1.
as n approaches infinity f(1) + f(2) + ... + f(n) approaches 1.
f(n) is the percentage number of students in n year level in the department of MCS.
Can you prove that a certain student in a year level will have a 50% chance to proceed to the next year level?
Isn't math fun?
someone prove this... saun ra kaau... math15 + math16 + math35...
edit: f(n) was wrong lol... fixed it... but its so easy now... x.x it looked harder when it was wrong lol u dont need induction anymore... *sadface*
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Re: the f(n) of MCS
I don't get the f(n). If n = 2, what is f(n) or f(2)?
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Chujutsu wrote:I don't get the f(n). If n = 2, what is f(n) or f(2)?
ooops my bad.
f(n) = 1 - 1/2 - 1/3 - 1/n - ...
f(2) = 1 - 1/2
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Uhh... f(3) gives 1 - 1/2 - 1/3 which is 1/6. I don't think that's at least 50% chance.
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Chujutsu wrote:Uhh... f(3) gives 1 - 1/2 - 1/3 which is 1/6. I don't think that's at least 50% chance.
f(n) is the percentage number of students in n year level
get the percentage chance of a student in a n year level going to the n+1 year level.
hmm... you have a point... i was thinking (1/2)/2=1/8 x.x
anyway there's something wrong with the function coz f(4) is already negative lol
i'll fix it after i play dota
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(1/2)/2 in math is 1/4
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Chujutsu wrote:(1/2)/2 in math is 1/4
i know that LOL... changed the f(n) anyway
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1/(2^n) = (1/2)^n
Since 1/2 is between zero and one, the more it is multiplied with itself, the smaller its value becomes, so...? Less chance?
Anyway, (1/2)^1 is equal to 1/2, or 50%.
Assuming it's sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) instead. If that was true, then simply adding f(n+1) should increase that. After all, it is impossible for (1/2)^n to become negative. Since the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) is at least 50%, then that would mean the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n+1) is also at least 50%.
Since 1/2 is between zero and one, the more it is multiplied with itself, the smaller its value becomes, so...? Less chance?
Anyway, (1/2)^1 is equal to 1/2, or 50%.
Assuming it's sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) instead. If that was true, then simply adding f(n+1) should increase that. After all, it is impossible for (1/2)^n to become negative. Since the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) is at least 50%, then that would mean the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n+1) is also at least 50%.
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Chujutsu wrote:1/(2^n) = (1/2)^n
Since 1/2 is between zero and one, the more it is multiplied with itself, the smaller its value becomes, so...? Less chance?
nope.
f(n) is decreasing but you're not looking for the population percentages per year
but the rate of passing a year level into the next.
Chujutsu wrote:
Assuming it's sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) instead. If that was true, then simply adding f(n+1) should increase that. After all, it is impossible for (1/2)^n to become negative. Since the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n) is at least 50%, then that would mean the sum of f(1), f(2),... all the way up to f(n+1) is also at least 50%.
if it's the sum then f(1) = 1/2 and f(2) = 3/4
the percentages per year level would be wrong.
f(1) + f(2) = 5/4 which is greater than 100%
is that what you mean?
whereas the original.
f(1) = 1/2, f(2) = 1/4 so on...
then f(1) + f(2) + ... f(infinity) would approximate to 1 or 100%.
anyway of course f(1) + .. + f(n) would be greater than 50% since f(1) is already 50%
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Let's just stop. This f(n) is still broken.
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Chujutsu wrote:Let's just stop. This f(n) is still broken.
haha... the exponential function works...
anyway... you just need to prove that the ratio of f(n+1)/f(n) = 50%
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Re: the f(n) of MCS
f(1+1)/f(1) = f(2)/f(1) = (1/2)^2 / (1/2)^1 = (1/4)/(1/2) = (1/4) * 2 = 1/2
f(n+1)/f(n) = (1/2)^(n+1) / (1/2)^n = (1/2)^(n+1 - n) = 1/2
f(n+1)/f(n) = (1/2)^(n+1) / (1/2)^n = (1/2)^(n+1 - n) = 1/2
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Chujutsu wrote:f(1+1)/f(1) = f(2)/f(1) = (1/2)^2 / (1/2)^1 = (1/4)/(1/2) = (1/4) * 2 = 1/2
f(n+1)/f(n) = (1/2)^(n+1) / (1/2)^n = (1/2)^(n+1 - n) = 1/2
the end XD lol...
anyway forget the first f(n) that was broken.
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Yeah sure
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I gotta post something here,..
....
oh,.!
Let me just say it:
"Q.E.D.
With this,
the proof is complete."
....
oh,.!
Let me just say it:
"Q.E.D.
With this,
the proof is complete."
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Q.E.D.?
What is that?
What is that?
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Just breathe in slowly, and breathe out... Make sure that you won't bleed!!!
Anyway, just take it piece by piece. That's how I'd look at math at times. You don't have to take everything in all at once.
Anyway, just take it piece by piece. That's how I'd look at math at times. You don't have to take everything in all at once.
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Chujutsu wrote:Just breathe in slowly, and breathe out... Make sure that you won't bleed!!!
Anyway, just take it piece by piece. That's how I'd look at math at times. You don't have to take everything in all at once.
HUHU. salig bryt ai .
Re: the f(n) of MCS
Hmm... Maybe I should give some tips with Math? Maybe not in here though...
Would you want some?
Would you want some?
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